ENERGY
Hi Yumi,
Sharing some thoughts that this thread has stirred up, for what they're worth...
If all of creation is ENERGY, then ENERGY can't be used by anything separate from It. It can only express Itself...not for any dualistic 'positive' or 'negative' effect, but simply because that's the way It is.
To 'be careful' implies choice, but who is there to be careful if all is ENERGY? Does ENERGY need to be careful about the way it uses ENERGY? Is there a 'Yumi', 'Triaka' or 'Paul' that's separate from ENERGY?
Can 'Yumi' really make choices, or is everything that these bodyminds do the inevitable consequence of ENERGY acting through the sum total of our accumulated conditioning, experience and characteristics?
What if, contrary to consensus opinion, we don't have choice or free will?
What if those responsible for 911 had no choice? Wasn't the act of flying into the twin towers simply an inevitable consequence of who those men had become, of what they'd experienced in their lives, of the injustices they'd suffered, of what they were vulnerable to, of how they'd been programmed, of their belief in separation, and the
narrowing down of their options to just one final action?
Did any of us really have a choice in our reaction to 911...whether we were motivated to set up GPC, or to celebrate in the streets, or to invade Afghanistan and Iraq?
Did Bush and Blair have a choice in going to war, or were they too simply responding to their total conditioning?
Was there really a choice involved in starting GPC, Yumi? Perhaps the question arose, "Shall I do this or something else?" But at the end of the questioning, was there a choice? Aren't we at a crossroads in every moment of our lives, being pushed forward by all that we are? Is it choice that sends us down one path instead of another, or does the sum total of who we are make the outcome of the questioning inevitable?
Isn't it more accurate to say that this totality of the bodymind's experience informs and decides every reaction to stimuli that we ever make, from cradle to grave, including the decision to commit an act of terrorism?
How would we see world events and personal dramas if we fully accepted that each of us is always doing the best we can? If you follow through the logic of that statement...if *everyone* is *always* making the best apparent choices and decisions that they're capable of...doesn't the concept of choice become redundant?
What if the accepted concensus belief flipped from "we are responsible for our actions" to "we have no choice in our actions?" What implications might this have for the way that we look at the world?
If we continue to see life through the dualistic filters which give us 'good' and 'bad', 'right' and 'wrong', 'peace' and 'war' etc...we remain locked in a closed loop or matrix from which there's no escape.
If, instead, we can see through the illusion, drop the false belief in separation, recognise our true relationship to each other and everything as ENERGY / Oneness / Consciousness / God, and can be Who we really are instead of the bit part actors we're programmed to become, how would this change of perception affect the world?
If this questioning just adds another conceptual layer to the mind's accumulation of ideas and beliefs, it has no value. The inquiry has to be sustained until it's felt on the level of direct experience and transforms our understanding of who we are.
All of our lives contain multiple stories of separation. Perhaps a deep re-framing of any one of them in a non-dualistic light might just crack the illusion and open a doorway to freedom from suffering.
Because its very existence is threatened, the mind / ego is likely to either fundamentally disagree with and reject the idea that we have no choice or free will, or find a way to adapt the concept for its own purposes in order to ensure its survival. But if the resistance is sat with and felt into, can a deeper underlying truth be intuited?
Just wondering :-)
Love,
'Paul' / ENERGY
On 25 Jan 2006, at 07:56, Yumi Kikikuchi wrote:
> Yes, Triaka,
>
> What you wrote here is sooo true.
> So we should be really careful what we put out there in writing and
> also in our thought.
> Thanks for your reminder.
>
> love and peace will prevail,
> Yumi
> On Jan 25, 2006, at 5:05 AM, Triaka wrote:
>
>> Aloha!
>> I believe the most important thing human beings can learn about
>> themselves is...
>>
>> 1. All of creation is ENERGY in one form or another, including
>> yourself;
>> 2. Your every thought, word, and action uses ENERGY for positive or
>> negative effect, not only on yourself, but all of creation.
>>
>> Be careful how you use ENERGY!
>>
>> Goodwill to you,
>> Triaka
Sharing some thoughts that this thread has stirred up, for what they're worth...
If all of creation is ENERGY, then ENERGY can't be used by anything separate from It. It can only express Itself...not for any dualistic 'positive' or 'negative' effect, but simply because that's the way It is.
To 'be careful' implies choice, but who is there to be careful if all is ENERGY? Does ENERGY need to be careful about the way it uses ENERGY? Is there a 'Yumi', 'Triaka' or 'Paul' that's separate from ENERGY?
Can 'Yumi' really make choices, or is everything that these bodyminds do the inevitable consequence of ENERGY acting through the sum total of our accumulated conditioning, experience and characteristics?
What if, contrary to consensus opinion, we don't have choice or free will?
What if those responsible for 911 had no choice? Wasn't the act of flying into the twin towers simply an inevitable consequence of who those men had become, of what they'd experienced in their lives, of the injustices they'd suffered, of what they were vulnerable to, of how they'd been programmed, of their belief in separation, and the
narrowing down of their options to just one final action?
Did any of us really have a choice in our reaction to 911...whether we were motivated to set up GPC, or to celebrate in the streets, or to invade Afghanistan and Iraq?
Did Bush and Blair have a choice in going to war, or were they too simply responding to their total conditioning?
Was there really a choice involved in starting GPC, Yumi? Perhaps the question arose, "Shall I do this or something else?" But at the end of the questioning, was there a choice? Aren't we at a crossroads in every moment of our lives, being pushed forward by all that we are? Is it choice that sends us down one path instead of another, or does the sum total of who we are make the outcome of the questioning inevitable?
Isn't it more accurate to say that this totality of the bodymind's experience informs and decides every reaction to stimuli that we ever make, from cradle to grave, including the decision to commit an act of terrorism?
How would we see world events and personal dramas if we fully accepted that each of us is always doing the best we can? If you follow through the logic of that statement...if *everyone* is *always* making the best apparent choices and decisions that they're capable of...doesn't the concept of choice become redundant?
What if the accepted concensus belief flipped from "we are responsible for our actions" to "we have no choice in our actions?" What implications might this have for the way that we look at the world?
If we continue to see life through the dualistic filters which give us 'good' and 'bad', 'right' and 'wrong', 'peace' and 'war' etc...we remain locked in a closed loop or matrix from which there's no escape.
If, instead, we can see through the illusion, drop the false belief in separation, recognise our true relationship to each other and everything as ENERGY / Oneness / Consciousness / God, and can be Who we really are instead of the bit part actors we're programmed to become, how would this change of perception affect the world?
If this questioning just adds another conceptual layer to the mind's accumulation of ideas and beliefs, it has no value. The inquiry has to be sustained until it's felt on the level of direct experience and transforms our understanding of who we are.
All of our lives contain multiple stories of separation. Perhaps a deep re-framing of any one of them in a non-dualistic light might just crack the illusion and open a doorway to freedom from suffering.
Because its very existence is threatened, the mind / ego is likely to either fundamentally disagree with and reject the idea that we have no choice or free will, or find a way to adapt the concept for its own purposes in order to ensure its survival. But if the resistance is sat with and felt into, can a deeper underlying truth be intuited?
Just wondering :-)
Love,
'Paul' / ENERGY
On 25 Jan 2006, at 07:56, Yumi Kikikuchi wrote:
> Yes, Triaka,
>
> What you wrote here is sooo true.
> So we should be really careful what we put out there in writing and
> also in our thought.
> Thanks for your reminder.
>
> love and peace will prevail,
> Yumi
> On Jan 25, 2006, at 5:05 AM, Triaka wrote:
>
>> Aloha!
>> I believe the most important thing human beings can learn about
>> themselves is...
>>
>> 1. All of creation is ENERGY in one form or another, including
>> yourself;
>> 2. Your every thought, word, and action uses ENERGY for positive or
>> negative effect, not only on yourself, but all of creation.
>>
>> Be careful how you use ENERGY!
>>
>> Goodwill to you,
>> Triaka
